The Bob Marshall Wilderness Open
An unsupported traverse of the Bob Marshall Wilderness in the tradition of the Alaska Mountain and Wilderness Classic.
Start: 900 MDT, Saturday May 26 (2012), Bellview-Teton road bridge over the Teton River, ~20 miles west of Choteau.
Finish: Parking lot of the Hungry Bear Steak House, ~3 miles south of Condon on highway 83.
Distance: 57 miles as the raven flies.
Guidelines:
-You must be entirely self-supported, and leave nothing but footprints. Start with what you need, and finish with everything with which you started save food eaten and fuel burned.
-Be prepared, psychologically, physically, logistically. The Open will take you through big wilderness during a time which will provide perhaps the most challenging conditions of the whole year. If you’re not prepared, your chances of dying are decent.
-Be nice, and obey all natural and man-made laws. If this is at all ambiguous, please don’t come.
-There is no required equipment. Suggested equipment would include, but is certainly not limited to, gear (and knowledge) to deal with flooding rivers, bad weather, over-snow travel, avalanche danger, hungry Grizzlies not long out of the den, and the unexpected (i.e. a broken ankle).
-No paved roads may be crossed (over, under, or on) save within 100 meters of the finish. This naturally bounds the course area within highways 2, 200, 83, 89, and 287. Any human-powered means of locomotion within this area is allowed. This includes walking in the ditch along 83.
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Dave:
Immediate thought: Badass that you are putting this together!
I may be interested, but it all depends on how much I can train this winter in the Front Range of the Rockies with a newborn. This is certainly something that I will daydream about all winter, and I look forward to seeing how many others express interest as well…
November.5.2011 at 19:42
Such a pretty walk.
November.6.2011 at 13:14
If flying in from Los Angeles, CA is Missoula the closest major airport? (Don’t know MT at all, sorry…)
Cheers, hope this goes off well, maybe I can get out.
November.7.2011 at 18:12
We have an airport here in Kalispell. Missoula is also fairly close, as is Great Falls. Not sure which might be cheapest. It might be complicated, but my hope is to help coordinate transport as best as possible, especially for folks from far away. I know flying here is damn expensive. More specific stuff will be arranged closer to the start to get folks to the beginning and from the end.
To answer (publicly) some other questions which have come up:
-You can do this without a packraft. It will limit your route choices, and you’ll want to exercise some serious discretion with a few creek/river crossings.
-You will most likely want skis or snowshoes.
-Temps could be anywhere between 20 and 80 F. Maybe colder, probably not warmer.
-It is totally irrelevant how long you take. This is not a race. Times will be recorded for posterity as a measure of experience, which is the greatest end. I expect times between 48 hours and 7 days.
November.7.2011 at 18:41
I would LOVE to do something like this.
One of these days….
November.8.2011 at 04:30
Spent a couple hours when you first posted this poring over digital maps and the straight line distance (measured on the ground) is around 57 miles. The distance from point A to point B using only roads and trails (with the exception of one possible 1/4 mile offtrail near the end) is around 100 miles. Nearly double! How beautiful is that? A landscape so rugged and diverse that a trail system must swerve over and around such a mosaic as to nearly double it’s length to get from one point to another.
Anyway, I have posed the option of this event to my roommate and we will be discussion entry over the coming months. I for one would be very excited to participate as would he but it will ultimately come down to drab work and / or school related factors for each of us respectively.
November.8.2011 at 22:45
If this winter is anything like last winter (another strong La Nina predicted…), it’s going to be SNOWY! I couldn’t believe how low the snow line was in mid-June when I rode to the west and then south of the Bob! I doubt I’ll be in this year, but perhaps next year if it happens again…
November.9.2011 at 11:46
Cool idea! ..and an amazing stretch of country. If spring 2012 is anything like 2011, better pack the galoshes!
If you’re looking for a map of the Bob, and happen to be interested in accurate trail mileages, consider the new ones from cairn cartographics: http://cairncarto.com/home/maps
The south half is available now and the north half is due out before the race.
November.9.2011 at 13:23
Looks like a good map!
November.9.2011 at 14:18
This sounds amazing! We’ve done work with the Patagonian Expedition Race (http://www.patagonianexpeditionrace.com/index.php) and
http://raxacollective.wordpress.com/2011/07/14/patagonian-expeditions/ But your trek sounds really intense! Your photos are fabulous, what a privilege to live in such an amazing place. Congrats!
November.11.2011 at 09:45
Count me in ! I’ve done some trips in the Bob in the fall and May is the new element snow or no snow?? Ultra light or expect winter oooya bring it on.
thanks,
Les
November.11.2011 at 21:02
Seriously thinking of doing this.
November.15.2011 at 12:01
I keep asking myself “If not now, when?”
November.15.2011 at 12:49
Always a good question.
November.15.2011 at 18:39
Will be there!
November.18.2011 at 10:22
Please sign me up. I will be driving from Minnesota for this one and could help with shuttling people from one side to the other.
I am curious as to what parts of the route would be best traveled by packraft.
Looking forward to it…
November.17.2011 at 11:23
Welcome aboard Cyrus. There’s no “sign up,” just come. We’ll facilitate an online forum of some kind closer to the start date for folks to discuss the route and logistics (without a reply-all email orgy).
November.17.2011 at 15:57
Route decisions and map daydreaming begins in 3 hrs…
November.17.2011 at 13:54
This will be quite the “on-sight” challenge because I have never been there before. Too long of drive from Minneapolis. I am expecting more of a ski mountaineering gig at that time of the year.
November.18.2011 at 11:36
If I knew how to paraglide, an approach like that used in The Red Bull Alps race (http://www.redbullxalps.com/) might come in handy if the winds were favorable.
November.18.2011 at 12:08
I don’t know anything about paragliding, but it’d be interesting.
I intend to provide enough info on conditions to make things good for folks who are going onsight, but not so much that all fun is spoiled. There’s some good beta on this blog, as well as packrafting.org, which will prove useful.
November.18.2011 at 15:22
Thank you.
Google Earth is coming in very handy!
November.19.2011 at 18:51
A strong possibility that I would attend pending work related responsibilities.
November.18.2011 at 16:40
I’m in.
November.28.2011 at 23:22
I want to do this.
December.1.2011 at 20:15
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I’ll be there in spirit – sounds great, and I love the guideline re: be prepared (my wife did too!).
December.4.2011 at 14:26
I’d love to do this sometime. Would give me a good excuse to ride my KLR down Canada. I attempted the AMWC race in 2010, and made 57 miles in 24 hours, but pulled out from hypothermia. And with the timing of this would make a great strength/endurance test for the AMWC race
December.5.2011 at 12:26
I’m planning to be there. Already bought my map!
December.12.2011 at 16:51
Psyched by the interest everyone. Will have more news in the new year.
December.12.2011 at 19:17
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That’s awesome that you’re planning this event Dave. The hiking community needs more stuff like this. I really hope this can continue on as a multi-year event.
I wanted to experience the AMWC this year until I found out it falls in the middle of my set-in-stone 3 weeks on, 3 week off work schedule. Seeing this event briefly pumped me up until I checked and it’s also smack dab in the middle of another one of my 3 weeks on work rotations (May 17 – June 8). Disappointing…anyone one know of any other similar events? I love the small community vibe this one is going to have.
December.29.2011 at 11:06
Dan, I’m not sure of another event like this (aside from the AMWC). Where do you live? Organize another one!
December.29.2011 at 16:23
Interested
January.9.2012 at 14:27
I might be able to make it after all….I won’t know for a couple months but I’m hoping.
January.19.2012 at 13:02
Dave,
I am ready to jump into packrafting and make the purchase. I think I have settled on the alpaca model with a spray deck. Do you have any opinions on what works or does not work for packrafting in the Bob? I have no clue what to buy for a paddle…
Any direction would be appreciated.
January.26.2012 at 05:09
Can’t go wrong with Alpacka, whichever model fits. A deck is essential. As far as packrafting paddles go, my thoughts are as follows:
-For basic and bomber get an Aquabound (nylon blades, carbon shaft nice)
-For just light get the Sawyer (the adjustment feature is nice)
-For best performance and lots of $$ get a Werner (touring blade for non-gorrillas, WW blade for the burly and abusive)
210 is a very versatile length, and a mid sized blade is best.
January.26.2012 at 07:26
that info definetely helps me Dave. Looking at the Alpacka web site I am now having a hard time deciding which spray skirt design to buy the 2012 or the 2011. Some decisions are so hard to make…
Do you have any plans to post your Bob Marshall crossing route from last year?
January.27.2012 at 05:19
http://bedrockandparadox.com/2011/05/23/sw-bob-memorial-traverse-a-trip-planning-case-study/
January.27.2012 at 14:38
Interested.
February.1.2012 at 15:28
Dave, is there an email list or a registration form? Anything like that? I’ll be there!!!!
February.2.2012 at 18:42
This trek looks like it’ll kick my tail. Perfect.
First question: Would a few of you mind sharing your training plans with me? Currently I’m hiking/running a 2000 vertical foot ascent in the Rockies every day during my lunch hour but I’d like a bead on where most participants are at, physically speaking.
Second question: Any new info on transport to and from the start and end points. I realize it’s still pretty early, but I was wondering if anybody knows if they’ll be available as a shuttle to a nearby airport. I’d be willing to chip in for gas, of course.
February.18.2012 at 23:42
I expect that this event will draw some really hard-core endurance junkies. The types that go 72 hours on 2 hours of sleep and call it great fun.
February.24.2012 at 18:01
I’m hoping to setup a forum to discuss logistics and such soon. When I do, the details will be posted here.
February.19.2012 at 08:16
Please note the creation of an event-specific discussion forum at bobmarshallopen.proboards.com. Further discussion of logistics, route planning, and so forth is encouraged there. Participation is not required.
February.25.2012 at 00:44
Awaiting approval from a staff member. Staff member….APPROVE me! rps876.
March.7.2012 at 22:21
You’re set Rich. I do sleep occasionally.
March.8.2012 at 08:02
Hahaha. I was anxious. Cannot wait for this! Route and gear list is set.
April.4.2012 at 22:36
Thank you Dave for creating the posting board and for your efforts in getting this thing off the ground. Looking forward to my first time in that area of the county. I’m planning for similar weather to what we had in Alaska last summer but who knows, it could be all sunshine and clear skies!
From the looks of this web site the snow has arrived as it has here in Colorado.
March.8.2012 at 11:59
Greg. Where in Colorado are you located?
April.4.2012 at 22:37
Denver, near DU
April.5.2012 at 14:05
I am seriously considering this. Not very far from me.
March.20.2012 at 21:36