Three Quotations

None of the polling or the focus groups indicate that people are … (snubbing) her because she is a woman but because of a deficit in how she is projecting leadership.

…says Reuters.

So why is the sex barrier not taken as seriously as the racial one? The reasons are as pervasive as the air we breathe: because sexism is still confused with nature as racism once was; because anything that affects males is seen as more serious than anything that affects “only” the female half of the human race; because children are still raised mostly by women (to put it mildly) so men especially tend to feel they are regressing to childhood when dealing with a powerful woman; because racism stereotyped black men as more “masculine” for so long that some white men find their presence to be masculinity-affirming (as long as there aren’t too many of them); and because there is still no “right” way to be a woman in public power without being considered a you-know-what.

…says Gloria Steinam in today’s NYT.

The central issue in this election is the crisis of leadership. Voters are reacting against partisan gridlock. Obama and McCain both offer ways to end this gridlock. Obama wants us to rise above it by rediscovering our commonalities. McCain hopes smash it with fierce honesty and independent action.

…says Dave Brooks in the same.

Obama is going to win in New Hampshire today, is going to win the nomination in Denver, and the White House (along with VP Richardson). Quotations one and three speak to this, but what hasn’t been addressed to my satisfaction is the extent to which Obama has managed to control the predominant question of the campaign. That Clinton has been speaking incessently of change in the past four days, that Romney attacks McCain’s insiderism using the vocabulary of change, all are reminders of the extent to which Obama has already won.

Game, for the most part, over.

More troubling to me is Steinam’s question. Her point that gender is essentialized, that is treated as something inherent to a person’s existence (with all the included baggage). That is to say; you are a boy, therefore you must be tough, stoic, successful, better at sports, etc.

Summarizing it thus trivializes the point. The influence of enforced identity on an individual is as evasive as it is insidious. Categries such as race and gender are culturally relevant, but also reductive and dangerous.

So which is worse: race or gender? Growing up in a small Ohio town hardly made me an expert on the former, and this in no small part influenced my opinion that gender was embedded further in race than vice versa. Working my job for the last 19 months has made me question this. When I look at the most stuck, the most problematic of my students, many are black and (of course) female. In many ways it seems to me that the black, the ghetto, family ruin, and societal muck is the worse fate.

But in the end I really don’t know. My brain locks up after much thought on the subject. Thoughts welcome.

10 responses to “Three Quotations”

  1. Not oposed to a women prez…But golly anything but hilliaryI am really starting to dig what O is saying..I am somewhat scared of the choices on the red side of the fence =(

  2. The Steinam quote is really off the deep end.I think an Obama/Mccain contest would be very interesting. I like them both, but would of course go with the side that does not use the force government to solve my problems as much as possible.Finally, I don’t understand what you are getting at at all?Sex (maybe nor gender?) is absolutely essentiallized. It is crucial to a persons identity and existence. i would say probably on of the most crucial parts of one’s identity. you sex is written on every gene of your body. Guess what? The sexes are wonderfully different in every way. Two incredible expressions of one humanity. How is that reductive and dangerous?My girls love dress up and imaginary plays. My boys like to go outside and fall off things on their heads, throw things and beat the shit out of dad. To the best of my knowledge I did not ingrain this. They just are.Neither race or gender is worse. What is evil is prejudice and discrimination based on either. If you asked me if I would would rather be a black man, or a white woman, I would probably keep my gender and pitch my race since that is truly more dear and essential to who I am (asked wife who feels the same She would keep gender over race). It’s in the genes I say!!

  3. The Steinam rant is just that – where’s the waaaaambulance?A leader is a leader is a leader no matter the gender. If Hillary proves herself and wins and truly leads no one is going to care about her gender.Unfortunately for her, she is coming off as too calculating, too beholden to the polls and what people’s perception of her is. She is not being genuine.And let’s take a look at this timeline: Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush…Clinton?Ed

  4. And I thought this wouldn’t get any bites… ;0On Clinton’s win: guilty am I of underestimating the Clinton machine and putting to much unexamined support in polls.In college I took a class where we read Judith Butler’s Gender Trouble, the originator of the ideas I’m basing most of this contention around. I struggled with her for a long, long time, and it’s the ferocity of my reaction against her at first that in the end convinced me. It’s quite impossible for most of us to envision sex/gender as anything but an either/or proposition. Because our society views it as such, and as Nietzsche says “the world is always already interpreted”, this is not remarkable. It also renders arguments about it problematic. I don’t think the genetics arguments hold much water on this issue, reason being there are far too many factors which cannot be quantified. It points (after a long journey) to the scientific method being to a certain extent solipsistic (insofar as the veracity of empiricism cannot be empirically verified). Thus, genetics can’t do a lot of what it purports to be able to do these days. In the end I’m a poor messanger for a lot of this, but I think the presence of Hillary and Barack on the national stage is telling us a lot more than most think.

  5. If all the commentators are right – and her “break down” is what finally brought a lot of voters around – then I think the argument is right, that she wasn’t being outvoted because she’s a woman, but rather because people see her attached to the Bush/Clinton continuum, and just a calculating member of the politics we already have.If people didn’t like her because she was a woman – than presumably that “break-down” would have reinforced the “delicate female” idea and she would have gotten trounced at the poles in NH – which didn’t happen.Oh – and Enel… doesn’t so much matter whether You indoctrinated that, your society and friends/family did it for you. P.S. When you teach/read them bible stories – what gender are the warriors??? There’s nothing wrong with that – I’m just saying, examples of gender specific identities sneak in all over the place.

  6. “It’s quite impossible for most of us to envision sex/gender as anything but an either/or proposition……reason being there are far too many factors which cannot be quantified”This is where we really see the generation gap in the 10 or so years between us. You truly are post-modern. I sorta am, but remain fairly stuck in the modern scientific world view.Sex has to be either or because it is. XX or XY (for the most part). Can’t change that. Behaviors I agree are multifactorial, and determined in many ways by the individual sexes suitableness for the role for the most part.Women usually suck at hand to had combat (against men), so most “heros” of ancient days are male (M: with the notable and gory exceptions of Deborah and Jaelhttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=7&chapter=4&version=31Dave, you are more comfortable questioning whether empiricism is valid. I’m just more of a modernist that thinks some things at least can be known.A question for you would be what do you (and I assume M) want society to look like? I say this with all sincerity. It is great to correct injustice, but do you desire a “gender blind” society? Men and women are different, and it is a great thing. Do we want a society where all roles are completely interchangable at the whim of the individual? Is the goal no discrimination at all? Just trying to understand the feminist mindset because I think feminism has for the most part harmed women.Ths scriptures say that the man and woman together formed the image of God. Either alone is only part of that image.PS Hillary being a woman has very little to do with my dislike of her. (in my mind)

  7. Never thought of it as a generation gap, but that’s useful. We talked about it in class today in the context of things likes women’s rights and gay rights, that ideas take a generation and a half to progress from the radical fringe to the law books. To put it another way, I think there’s a 50/50 chance of homosexual marriage become legal before I die. In short, I’m comfortable with discrimination in society based on a less-binary, more complex way of understanding differences. Postmodern, if you will (though in philosophy the consensus was that pomo is a catchall for a host of theories developed since the 60’s).

  8. There was a commentary on NPR about a pole conducted at various corporations in the United States. It measured the number of phrases, words, and minutes individuals in meetings used. They also surveyed participants on the way each speaker was viewed personally and professionally. It is one of the first polls that I have seen that quantifies the gender roles and perceptions that exist.It was not too shocking that the polls found that despite the variables being at an equilibrium between the speakers women received negative feedback for the exact reasons men received positive. The commentary focused on the traditional roles men play in leadership roles and how such outcomes are so pervasive. Men who speak often are deemed confident and associated with the positive characteristics of leadership. Women who behave in the same manner are viewed as bossy, etc. It was interesting to see that correlation in such a blatant manner.If it is accurate on a wider scale, outside the surveyed participants, than it may have important impacts in arenas like politics. If accurate, it becomes an important component in the campaigning of any female on how to overcome that bias. How does a female running for a high level office recognize the probability of that bias and act accordingly without trivializing here positions and authority?It came out months ago but it made me reevaluate my opinions about Hillary.

  9. Welcome aboard, Phillip.

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